Jarlaxle wrote: totalmotorcycle wrote: Jarlaxle wrote: totalmotorcycle wrote: Jarlaxle wrote: totalmotorcycle wrote:
Jarlaxle wrote:From left field: CSC Cyclone 250.
Interesting, a BMW clone from Belarusian (Russia)
Actually, it's not a BMW clone and not from Russia or Belarus.
I can't remember where I got that from but upon researching it again, your are right, it's actually from China, not Russia. Personally, I think it would have been higher quality if it was a BMW clone from Russia (something like a URAL)... now I'm pretty sure it's just a "look-a-like" from China.
Manufactured in China by Zongshen
Update: Wowzers, $7,503.30 for the SE 250cc version!
Not even close: the regular RX3 is less than $4000. $7500 is for the top-line version with custom paint, aluminum luggage, bigger crash bars, offroad lights, seat pad, custom windshield, center stand, hand guards, skidplates, and anodized fork tubes.
Cyclones are plenty tough. They have done Baja runs, a 5000+ mile tour of thew western US, and the 10,000km Brest-Dushanbe rally. It's not a clone of ANYTHING.
Let's say then their 250cc is $4k to $7.5k, which if you get the $4k one, that's not bad, but there are a lot of other bikes on the market not from China that's around $4k for a 250cc bike. I do like the look for the Cyclone, but I have to ask, do you not see any similarities in design from a Suzuki V-Strom, BMW or Yamaha Tenere?
There are only so many ways to style an adventure bike.
How many <$4K bikes come with EFI, liquid cooling, hard luggage, engine bars, a 4.2-gallon tank, 6-speed gearbox, and skidplate? The Cyclone has all of that-and a 2 year warranty-standard.
I'll give you that, not many at all, but I don't follow many of the cheaper brands that can offer that. CCW is about the cheapest manufacturer on TMW (then Hyosung, Kymco, and I guess Royal Enfield ish). The Chinese have are workhorses for producing a product that can clearly be undermarket value, but quality (from what I've seen personally and have heard) is very lacking. But for looks, the ZRX3-b-2T looks great.
I wonder how many riders would be comfortable taking it on a very long trip knowing the quality may be what you paid for?
One day though, we will look at Chinese bikes like we do at Korean bikes or even Japanese bikes for quality, it's coming and will happen, I just don't know how far that is away... 10 / 20 years?
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