I ahve been riding a long time nowbut I still want to make my self better. Is there a a school for this that not all out racing, I just came back to a sports bike and tires and the bikes are better then the last time I owned one( 72 RD350) and I know it will handle better. I know the finer points of riding but I know I can always get better.

parking lot based extension of the Basic RiderCourse
MSF Experienced Rider Course
http://msf-usa.org

higher speed/more advance parking lot based
Lee Parks Total Control Advanced Riding Clinic
http://www.totalcontroltraining.net/

road based/adventure riding + training
Stayin' Safe
http://www.stayinsafe.com/

Then there are the track-based advanced riding schools like California Superbike School, CLASS, STAR, Kevin Schwantz School, etc., etc. They do not focus exclusively racing but rather development of advanced riding skills in a closed course environment that *may* be good training for those who endeavor to race.

Also, there is a proliferation of track-days which have varying amounts of education/training. These focus on track-time.

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`08 CBR1000RR "Ayane" - the Shinkansen
`07 S4Rs "Persephone" - urban Monster
`00 SV650 "Ayame" - trackday special

The Msf I have done already will check out the others.


Buell XB12STT most fun I have had on two wheels

Which "MSF" have you done? The Experienced Riders Course is done on your own bike. It isn't a big time commitment, and I highly recommend it for returning riders, especially if you've switched bike styles, or have been off a bike for more than a few years.

Even moto-veterans come away from the class having learned stuff they didn't know they didn't know (or didn't realize they'd forgotten).

P

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I done it on a BMW had , I might want to do it again on my Buell. I didn't like the BMW and I like the Buell so maybe I get more out of it.

The Lee Parks Total Control course is worthwhile. It's not a race school, but it defenitely covers some higher level skills. In addition, it contains a very worthwhile segement on suspensions. Many bikes have adjustable suspensions, but how do you know its really 'right'? The course addresses suspension set-up. With the suspension dialed in, and the skills covered in the class you can definitely take it to the next step.

that's what I am looking for, I want to learne more about riding . How to take turns better and better braking. For what I learne so far and what MSF teachs is not the same, but MSF did teach me some good things. I feel there is better way to riding smart. I keep two fingers on my brake always and MSF said you souldn't.

Yeah the MSF courses (even the experienced rider class) may not be what you're looking for if you're looking for more advanced, sport riding oriented instruction.

The Total Control class may be more up your ally, or maybe even a track day, one that's oriented more towards street riders than racers (ie, not a race school).

I'm not sure how far you are from New Jersey Motorsports Park, but I'll be heading down there with the rest of the staff from www.tonystrackdays.com for an even in late April. If you're interested or have any questions just fire away.

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-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187
Rider for ECK Racing, instructor for Tony's Track Days and RiderCoach for Ironstone Ventures

The Garage: '03 Aprilia Tuono (street/track) | '06 Suzuki SV650 (race)

I'm not so far from NJ Motorsports - what's going on in April?

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2005 Triumph Bonneville
2005 Suzuki V-Strom 1000
2003 Triumph Trophy 1200
2009 BMW F650GS (wife's)
1990 HD Sportster XL883 (for sale; wanna buy a Sportster??)

We'll be having our first two track days of the year on the Thunderbolt course on April 20th and 21st.

Our events are geared towards street riders that wish to improve their riding in a track environment. You can read more about it here

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-Pete
LRRS/CCS#187
Rider for ECK Racing, instructor for Tony's Track Days and RiderCoach for Ironstone Ventures

The Garage: '03 Aprilia Tuono (street/track) | '06 Suzuki SV650 (race)