ofblong wrote:Skier wrote:ofblong, I'm still waiting for something more concrete than anecdotal evidence. Spouting stories, secondhand knowledge and making personal attacks only weaken your position.
I never attacked you so that right there kinda makes you look stupid yourself. as for the rest its common sense as well as common knowledge.
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums/sh ... ?p=8285702
bout halfway down someone stated same thing.
may I also suggest you read
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story. ... =3/11/2008
this talks about the RPI reports. Easily found with GOOGLE like I told you to do because to me its common sense.
Your response, quoted below, sure appears to be an attack on anyone not "deducing" what you were trying to explain:
ofblong wrote:TrueFaith wrote:ofblonng,
So you're saying that because a Jeep's headlights are closer together than most cars, this gets transmitted to an oncoming driver as the Jeep appearing farther away? That makes sense considering how inattentive cagers are in the first place and how they only rely on an abrupt glance to completely size up a traffic situation before committing. If that's the case, then I imagine this problem is specific to Jeep CJs and not to other models like a Cherokee Chief or Liberty. Interesting.
yes I dont consider cherokee's a jeep but an suv. So I am talking about cj types etc etc where the lights are very close together. Good job deducing what I was talking about
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I am afraid I am not buying your common sense and common knowledge statements. The forum link you provided backed up my argument of trying to make a motorcycle appear bigger with a light triangle:
As for marker lights showing the vehicle width, make your turn signals into running lights if they're not that way already, and add 5 amber lights on top of the windshield.
The problem with the TJ is the headlights are so close together that people think it's either a very small vehicle or very far away.
Same problem with bikes, same solution: make your vehicle appear as large as possible.
The second link you sent has an appropriate section:
"Research from the University of Granada in Spain showed that people do tend to misestimate the vehicle distances for vehicles with closely or distantly spaced headlights in clear weather at night," Bullough said. "Fog or snow will certainly complicate things further."
Most motorcycles fall into this same category with either a single light or two closely mounted lights. Cranking up the brightness isn't going to help!
Two more notes: the first instance of "Google" in this thread is the quote starting this post and you really, really need to brush up on your English skills: "its" is possessive and "it's" is short for "it is." I find it hard to believe things are "common knowledge" or "common sense" when someone doesn't have the "common sense" of a grade schooler.
There, now that is a personal attack.
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