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#301 Unread post by VermilionX » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:16 pm

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Yeah, but Verm, how many of them were on their very first trackday? You're not a Motorcycling God, but that doesn't mean you totally suck, either. Give it time, dude. Motorcycling is something you can work on your whole life. I'm definitely a better rider than I was a year ago, but a year from now I hope and expect to be better still. It just takes time and practice.
yeah, some of the riders in the street group that i did talk to have been riding way longer than me.

but anyway... like i said. it's ok. i had some fun, learned some stuff, and most importantly... i didn't go down like so many riders did that day.
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#302 Unread post by VermilionX » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:18 pm

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I disagree. I could do any kind of riding and the 'expense' is all up to me. I can race a 20 year old sport bike on a stock setup or a brand new bike with 10k of engine upgrades (my performance is based on my skills, not on my bike - with the exception of me being a professional racer). I can cruise the boulevard on a cruiser with or without 15k of chrome all over it. I can commute on a 12k VStrom with hard saddle bags painted to match or an old cheap Blast. I can wear a $1000 pop-brand helmet or a $70 one from Walmart.

The result is the same, regardless of what I spend.
but still... you will spend a lot of money on the tracks regardless of what bike you have. tires, gas, transpo, track fee, etc.

you really can't compare how much more expenses you will spend on the tracks compared to streets.

unless of course you race on the streets... that's gonna more expensive if you get caught by the popo.
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#303 Unread post by VermilionX » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:29 pm

i forgot to mention.

this is what i will be working on...

i got the tip that when turning, you don't even have to sit on the bike. i don't mean to hang off so far that you don't sit... i mean when you hang off, the half of your butt that's still above the seat should only be hovering above the seat.

this will also help you put more weight on the pegs.

i will go try this next time in the canyons.
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#304 Unread post by VermilionX » Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:51 pm

10/3/06

just got a call from my new friend, john. he said my bike is street legal again.

picked it up and rode it home tonight.

tomorrow im gonna call mr andrews and have him work on my stock suspension. then i'll go decide from there what i'll do. if i can get a decent setup, i'll stick to the stock. if not... i'll go ahead and upgrade it.
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#305 Unread post by Kal » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:10 am

I'm glad you had fun. As for getting better only practise is going to get you there. The guys wiping out, well they'd be pushing thier personal evelope - as you already know that's why I was suggesting you ride something more 'disposable' as a track bike...
The Crimson Rider® wrote:i forgot to mention.

this is what i will be working on...

i got the tip that when turning, you don't even have to sit on the bike. i don't mean to hang off so far that you don't sit... i mean when you hang off, the half of your butt that's still above the seat should only be hovering above the seat.

this will also help you put more weight on the pegs.

i will go try this next time in the canyons.
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#306 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:29 am

Kal wrote:as you already know that's why I was suggesting you ride something more 'disposable' as a track bike...
if i can find a 400cc trackbike like a VFR400 for around $1000... i'd go buy one. :wink:
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#307 Unread post by Sev » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:01 am

The Crimson Rider® wrote:10/3/06

just got a call from my new friend, john. he said my bike is street legal again.

picked it up and rode it home tonight.

tomorrow im gonna call mr andrews and have him work on my stock suspension. then i'll go decide from there what i'll do. if i can get a decent setup, i'll stick to the stock. if not... i'll go ahead and upgrade it.
I just learned that most japanese bikes come set up for someone around 150lbs, with the ability to go from 120 to 180 with relative ease. On a bike as expensive as yours... well, you should be able to get a lot out of it without having to upgrade your suspension.
Of course I'm generalizing from a single example here, but everyone does that. At least I do.

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#308 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:09 am

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I just learned that most japanese bikes come set up for someone around 150lbs, with the ability to go from 120 to 180 with relative ease. On a bike as expensive as yours... well, you should be able to get a lot out of it without having to upgrade your suspension.
i also heard 150lbs is common for JP bikes.

but for my particular model... it's around 165lbs as i heard from others who have experience with tuning it.

anyway if it is 165lbs... then im only under 35lbs. i do hope i can get get a good setup from it.
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#309 Unread post by NorthernPete » Wed Oct 04, 2006 6:37 am

Just out of curiousity, what does your manual say about tuning your suspension? or someone from a Suzuki dealership?
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#310 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:15 am

NorthernPete wrote:Just out of curiousity, what does your manual say about tuning your suspension? or someone from a Suzuki dealership?
it has very little info on it. it only says how to adjust it.

haven't taken my bike to a dealership for work and i seriously doubt their mechanics do suspension tuning.
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#311 Unread post by CNF2002 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:19 am

I can't imagine there not being a mechanic who can tune the suspension at the dealer.

Surely this is a common thing. I would imagine there would be a sheet available somewhere that lists the appropriate settings for the weight of a particular rider. As I understand it, it's just a dial that you turn.
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#312 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 9:27 am

CNF2002 wrote:I can't imagine there not being a mechanic who can tune the suspension at the dealer.

Surely this is a common thing. I would imagine there would be a sheet available somewhere that lists the appropriate settings for the weight of a particular rider. As I understand it, it's just a dial that you turn.
i'd do it myself if there was a guide like that for my bike.

although i still have to take it to a shop since the rear shocks preload can only be adjusted by a special tool.
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#313 Unread post by TR7 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:14 am

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although i still have to take it to a shop since the rear shocks preload can only be adjusted by a special tool.

check the tool kit?

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#314 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 10:38 am

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although i still have to take it to a shop since the rear shocks preload can only be adjusted by a special tool.

check the tool kit?
yep... nothing in the tool kit.

the manual specified it that it's not recommended to do it yourself bec it said there's a special tool to adjust.

although if you really wanted to... you can use a screw driver and hammer it. i wouldn't want that though.
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#315 Unread post by CNF2002 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:08 am

Are you sure its not just a torx or hex screw?
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#316 Unread post by TR7 » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:26 am

Im surprised, even my GS500 has one in the toolkit. Maybe you should just borrow another riders :laughing: . I really dont feel you need to take it to a shop to adjust the read preload.

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#317 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 11:45 am

TR7 wrote:Im surprised, even my GS500 has one in the toolkit. Maybe you should just borrow another riders :laughing: . I really dont feel you need to take it to a shop to adjust the read preload.
well like i said... i'd do it myself if i knew what setting to use for my weight.

and do you know what kind of tool is needed for it?

here's what it looks like, those 2 silver things directly above the spring...
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#318 Unread post by -Holiday » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:05 pm

all the ones ive seen, including mine, look like this:

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#319 Unread post by Mintbread » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:57 pm

The Crimson Rider® wrote: and do you know what kind of tool is needed for it?
Yeah, a hammer and a big screwdriver.

Up is softer preload and down is harder preload. Simple.
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#320 Unread post by VermilionX » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:13 pm

Mintbread wrote:
Yeah, a hammer and a big screwdriver.

Up is softer preload and down is harder preload. Simple.
i already knew that but like i said... i don't want to hammer it and i don't know what setting to use.
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