Honda 919 to Get 998cc Engine for 2006?

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Honda 919 to Get 998cc Engine for 2006?

Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:04 am

Honda 919 to Get 998cc Engine for 2006?

Rumors are swirling that Honda is about to up the ante in the naked bike category by fitting its CBR1000RR engine into the 919 chassis for 2006.

If it does so, Honda may end up with one of the quickest nakeds available. It will match the engine capacity of Yamaha's FZ1, but would likely be significantly lighter. If the Honda 919 does become the "Honda 998", expect an announcement in September.
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Unread post by 65hemi » Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:56 am

I hope you're right. If they put a bigger engine in the 919 I'll buy one. I have been debating whether to get a 919 or the Yamaha FZ-1. The Yamaha has the edge on power, but the Honda is the better-handling bike. If they significantly up the power on the Honda it'll be a no-brainer.
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Unread post by TechTMW » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:51 am

Hopefully the nakeds won't get into power wars like the repli-racers. The whole point of the naked bike was to get away from that kind of mentality.

But if it sells (re above post) then I guess it makes sense :laughing:
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Unread post by kabob983 » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:13 am

I hope this isn't true. Not every bike needs to be a racer...
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Unread post by totalmotorcycle » Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:25 am

The 919 seems stuck in the strange class... 919cc isn't really enough to put it into the "big naked" or small enough to put it into the "middle weight" engine class. Honda does have a CB1300, but they most likely will not be importing it into North America (our loss).

Many owners of the 919 love their bikes but the 919 it seems isn't the stongest engine and they would like more. I think boosting it to just under or a tad above 1000cc would do the trick it really needs. I'm a 919 fan myself and would also like to see the chassis stretched a few inches for more leg room.

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Unread post by TechTMW » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:48 pm

totalmotorcycle wrote: Honda does have a CB1300, but they most likely will not be importing it into North America (our loss).
Yes, it is. The CB1300 (to me) is the Ultimate Japanese bike. I would buy one while I'm here in Europe, but bringing it back to the stateswould be too expensive. :cry:
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Unread post by MASHBY » Wed Apr 12, 2006 1:51 pm

TechBMW wrote:but bringing it back to the stateswould be too expensive. :cry:
Would the states even let you import it Matt.I thought the States import rules were tighter than Canada's.
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Unread post by TechTMW » Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:53 pm

You can import any bike (or car) from Europe ... but it's a PIA. Basically, the bike has to conform to federal regulations (Usually this just means that you Have to get certain components swapped - like the headlight)

The easiest way to do this is to go through an importer who is approved by the federal government. ($$$$$)

Being a certified tech, I could modify my own bike to meet federal regs as long as I do the proper paperwork (time + $$$$$)

Now the real trick is what STATE you want to register the bike in. Kalifornia (uber alles) ... fuggedaboutit. you'd have to change virtually the entire bike out to meet california's mentally challenged standards. (Like swapping out the entire fuel injection and exhaust systems, in addition to adding California only emissions equipment)

If you are lucky enough to live in a state that doesn't give a krap what kind of death-spewing nastiness is coming out of your vehicle's tailpipe (like the southeastern states) its much much easier.

All of this is spectacularly stupid since New Euro emissions standards exceed that of the US. They should let us bring em in no questions asked. But it's not about the emissions anyway, It's about the money they make from tarriffs and whatnot.

My home of Record is Florida - so I could do this, but it's just not worth it. Especially since I can buy a Harley from the Military Exchange new car program for well under MSRP, not register it, take delivery in the states and then turn around and sell it in the states for MSRP or more. :wink:

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Unread post by MASHBY » Wed Apr 12, 2006 10:10 pm

Thanks for that Matt interesting reading.Ive looked to importing cars into Canada.But unless it was officailly imported into the states or Canada you realy cant get it in.Unless its 15 years old then you can bring anything you like in.I might have look at bikes as i could make a bit of a profit and have some fun. :wink:
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Unread post by 65hemi » Tue May 09, 2006 9:45 am

And not every bike needs to be a dog, either. Motorcycles that are slower than my car don't interest me.

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Unread post by 65hemi » Tue May 09, 2006 9:56 am

Hopefully, they WILL get into a power war. Why should only the sport bikes have the best performance? Why should we have to ride in a twisted pretzel position to have a high-performance bike? To me. the whole point of the naked bikes was to have a bike that looks like a motorcycle, not a piece of rolling plastic. And what's wrong with "that mentality" of wanting a top-performing bike? Performance is one of the most exciting things about motorcycles. Otherwise why not ride a moped or a Vespa?

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TechBMW wrote:Hopefully the nakeds won't get into power wars like the repli-racers. The whole point of the naked bike was to get away from that kind of mentality.

But if it sells (re above post) then I guess it makes sense :laughing:
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Unread post by < I Fly > » Fri May 12, 2006 12:19 pm

TOO powerful, for a street bike is annoying.

Sure I want a bike that will haul @ss when I crank the throttle, but even on my humble 500, the bike never seems to enjoy going slow - when at low speeds it jerks forward, and the engine uneasily buzzes as though saying "come on you wuss! let's race!"
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Unread post by CNF2002 » Fri May 12, 2006 12:24 pm

Yes, too much power would just be annoying while fighting traffic. You want enough power to navigate a freeway @ 75mph, but not so much that you're fighting the bike @ 5mph.
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