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Honda 919 to Get 998cc Engine for 2006?

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:04 am
by totalmotorcycle
Honda 919 to Get 998cc Engine for 2006?

Rumors are swirling that Honda is about to up the ante in the naked bike category by fitting its CBR1000RR engine into the 919 chassis for 2006.

If it does so, Honda may end up with one of the quickest nakeds available. It will match the engine capacity of Yamaha's FZ1, but would likely be significantly lighter. If the Honda 919 does become the "Honda 998", expect an announcement in September.

New Honda 919

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:56 pm
by 65hemi
I hope you're right. If they put a bigger engine in the 919 I'll buy one. I have been debating whether to get a 919 or the Yamaha FZ-1. The Yamaha has the edge on power, but the Honda is the better-handling bike. If they significantly up the power on the Honda it'll be a no-brainer.

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:51 pm
by TechTMW
Hopefully the nakeds won't get into power wars like the repli-racers. The whole point of the naked bike was to get away from that kind of mentality.

But if it sells (re above post) then I guess it makes sense :laughing:

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:13 am
by kabob983
I hope this isn't true. Not every bike needs to be a racer...

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 5:25 am
by totalmotorcycle
The 919 seems stuck in the strange class... 919cc isn't really enough to put it into the "big naked" or small enough to put it into the "middle weight" engine class. Honda does have a CB1300, but they most likely will not be importing it into North America (our loss).

Many owners of the 919 love their bikes but the 919 it seems isn't the stongest engine and they would like more. I think boosting it to just under or a tad above 1000cc would do the trick it really needs. I'm a 919 fan myself and would also like to see the chassis stretched a few inches for more leg room.

Mike.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:48 am
by TechTMW
totalmotorcycle wrote: Honda does have a CB1300, but they most likely will not be importing it into North America (our loss).
Yes, it is. The CB1300 (to me) is the Ultimate Japanese bike. I would buy one while I'm here in Europe, but bringing it back to the stateswould be too expensive. :cry:

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:51 am
by MASHBY
TechBMW wrote:but bringing it back to the stateswould be too expensive. :cry:
Would the states even let you import it Matt.I thought the States import rules were tighter than Canada's.

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 11:53 am
by TechTMW
You can import any bike (or car) from Europe ... but it's a PIA. Basically, the bike has to conform to federal regulations (Usually this just means that you Have to get certain components swapped - like the headlight)

The easiest way to do this is to go through an importer who is approved by the federal government. ($$$$$)

Being a certified tech, I could modify my own bike to meet federal regs as long as I do the proper paperwork (time + $$$$$)

Now the real trick is what STATE you want to register the bike in. Kalifornia (uber alles) ... fuggedaboutit. you'd have to change virtually the entire bike out to meet california's mentally challenged standards. (Like swapping out the entire fuel injection and exhaust systems, in addition to adding California only emissions equipment)

If you are lucky enough to live in a state that doesn't give a krap what kind of death-spewing nastiness is coming out of your vehicle's tailpipe (like the southeastern states) its much much easier.

All of this is spectacularly stupid since New Euro emissions standards exceed that of the US. They should let us bring em in no questions asked. But it's not about the emissions anyway, It's about the money they make from tarriffs and whatnot.

My home of Record is Florida - so I could do this, but it's just not worth it. Especially since I can buy a Harley from the Military Exchange new car program for well under MSRP, not register it, take delivery in the states and then turn around and sell it in the states for MSRP or more. :wink:

Why lose money when you can make it ????

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:10 pm
by MASHBY
Thanks for that Matt interesting reading.Ive looked to importing cars into Canada.But unless it was officailly imported into the states or Canada you realy cant get it in.Unless its 15 years old then you can bring anything you like in.I might have look at bikes as i could make a bit of a profit and have some fun. :wink:

Honda 919

Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 3:45 am
by 65hemi
And not every bike needs to be a dog, either. Motorcycles that are slower than my car don't interest me.

Bill
kabob983 wrote:I hope this isn't true. Not every bike needs to be a racer...